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Massive chunks of ice break away from Arctic shelf

by Rich Bowden - Jul 31 2008, 00:12

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BlendermanJul 31st, 2008 - 12:53:28

Woo-Hoo.....Does that mean we get to make more slushy drinks.

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ajitJul 31st, 2008 - 21:26:42

Ozonator,
i hear you buddy. its all abt the fear. keeping us in check. they have been for a long time now and thats all they know how to do.


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Francis T. MannsJul 31st, 2008 - 21:40:59

I am annoyed by our media blindly carrying the pot for political guilt on every issue they can dredge up from their infinite files of environmental crimes. These issues are optical illusions. We have more trees producing more oxygen and soaking up more CO2 than nearly any other country on our lovely planet. I have a clean tailpipe, but Nanny Ontario makes me pay to check it every two years. My 10 year old truck produces 10% of the allowable limit of emissions, and some plant fertilizer. I will likely be asked to take it off the road, in one of the cleanest cities on the continent so that a politician can say to an environmental lobby group that Ontario must meet some lower limbo bar in filthy California.
Why do Canadians think they need to exceed California standards of excellence in pollution control? The GDP of California dwarfs us, and so does the air pollution. Canada, however, is no longer an industrial country. Buzz Hargrove fiddled while the dollar was low and lost the bulk of our auto-manufacturing sector and the logging sector buckled to the competition. Buzz should have realized that being a nice person to his members did not improve efficiency against the day when dollar parity returned.
Canada needs political common sense. Measure Canada per hectare, not per capita and Canada is obviously among the cleanest countries on the planet and we may absorb the most CO2. Measure our total emissions and we`re about even with the great State of Rhode Island. We do not need to crater our economy for the sake of Suzuki`s optical illusions. The little alarming ice cubes near Ellesmere will probably re-attach shortly after August 22, the first sunset in the high arctic. I t depends on the wind direction. I was on Cornwallis Island in August and it gets mighty cold after the first sunset.

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Mike RobinsonAug 1st, 2008 - 02:55:09

You miss the point Francis. It is about setting a good example for the rest of the world. If we, the wealthiest country in the world per capita in terms of environmental resources, can't even try to lessen our impact on global systems, then why should more polluting countries risk their more fragile economies. Add to that our hellbent willingness to dig up huge areas of boreal forest to extract dirty bitumen (Oil Sands in Alberta), effectively encouraging fossil fuel consumption, and we come across as a pretty greedy and shortsighted nation. Consider this, would you set this kind of example to your children and expect them to respect or emulate you? It is like squandering your savings on a vacation; a short-term, hedonistic experience that leaves you penniless. Sure let's use all the oil, but let's take 1,000 years to do it, or 10,000 rather than 25 or 30. I suppose there is some risk that our economy might stall as we shift towards sunrise (sustainable and renewable) technologies, but we'll only stay fat and oblivious for a few more years if we continue to rely on sunset technologies. If I have to tighten my belt a little I will do so gladly. What is stopping you from doing the same?

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OzonatorAug 1st, 2008 - 18:27:37

Having no need of a thermometer, even in the plant doctor’s office, extremist Republicans and Christians also failed to predict this part of the global warming “hoax” while planning a Northwest Passage Fun Run for their shipping lines and water front properties.

“A major national park in Canada's Arctic has been largely closed after record high temperatures caused flooding that washed away hiking trails and forced the evacuation of tourists ... Auyuittuq National Park, which covers over 19,000 square km (7,340 square miles) on Baffin Island and is dominated by the giant Penny ice cap ... The problems started last month with two weeks of record temperatures on Baffin Island that reached as high as 27 Celsius (81 Fahrenheit), well above the July average of 12 C (54 F) ... Last week, giant sheets of ice totaling almost 20 square km (8 square miles) broke off an ice shelf in the Canadian Arctic and more might follow later this year ... Scott ... 'We've had lots of hard rain in the south part of Baffin Island in the last five days so we don't know what this is doing to further destabilize melting permafrost, because this is what is causing the erosion'“ (“Record heat forces closure of Canada Arctic park”; By David Ljunggren, Reuters; news.yahoo.com, 8/1/08).

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GotabrainAug 2nd, 2008 - 13:34:59

I guess this has nothing to do with the Volcano which is spewing ash under the ice at 2400ft per second. Like the pin head scientist that said. The Volcano is NOT heating up the water underneath the ice. Scientists or patsies, with these type of reports..patsies patsies


Get a grip people

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Chasbo1Aug 2nd, 2008 - 14:13:20

With all this technology we have, why don't they figure out how to put some thrusters on the Earth and just slightly thrust us out away from the sun a few hundred yards or so. There, that should fix it. Now we don't have to have this debate anymore. Just stop poisoning mother nature and God's green earth as this is just common sense. Without the necessities of life, clean air, clean water, clean soil and clean food to eat we just won't live no matter how hot or cold it is.

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Steve DapAug 2nd, 2008 - 15:07:51

Speaking of optical illusions Francis, what is your source for the amazing claim, 'Meaure our total emissions and we`re about even with the great State of Rhode Island'? While it is understandable that you are thoroughly p-off about the possibility of having to take your 10-year old gas-guzzler off the road, is that really such a bad thing? By the way, according to data collected and analyzed by CDIAC for 2004, Canada ranks 7th in the world in total CO2 emissions (above UK, Italy, Mexico, France and Brazil).

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AlAug 2nd, 2008 - 16:09:30

Canada ranks 5th in the world in CO2 emissions? What utter nonsense!

While CO2 really is only plant food, both India and China produce more CO2 in 3 weeks than Canada does in a year and they aren't even on your list.

Canada is a good place to grow things and climate change is making it better every year. Canada's net CO2 balance is close to zero given the huge ratio of plants to humans in Canada.

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jajaAug 2nd, 2008 - 23:58:12

Why is it that we have had no net rise in temperature in the last ten years?

Does anyone understand that the sun is in its 24th cycle and that could mean a mini ice age for our planet?

Its not just about CO2 people read outside your little group of greenhouse BS!!

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