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Spy and stealth planes most commonly mistaken for UFOs

by Rich Bowden - Jun 11 2009, 05:55

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hammsterJun 11th, 2009 - 07:17:10

Excuse me. Did you just cite that 'a recent CIA report has suggested' UFO's are all military aircraft??????

The CIA is the one trying to cover up that aliens are here. What do you expect them to say?

By writing articles like this, you become part of the coverup. It is easy to not do any research and just claim that Youtube is causing conspiracy theories.

I will not bother citing the hundreds of cases where spy planes simply cannot possibly explain what was witnessed.

However, here is just 1 of hundreds. Watch the first 7 minutes, regarding Japan Airlines commercial flight over Alaska.

tinyurl.com/mcs4gg

Still think this UFO was a U2 spy plane?

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Malcolm J. BrennerJun 11th, 2009 - 12:10:29

The distinctive characteristics of anomalous UFO's – those that cannot later be identified as natural or man-made phenomena – are:
1) Erratic movement, cable of coming to a complete stop from high speeds without momentum, hovering, darting, making 'falling leaf' motions, turning on their sides, rapid acceleration, etc. No conventional aircraft dependent on thrust and lift can fly like this.
2) Silence. I have heard and seen Stealth aircraft (F117 Nighthawk) at air shows, and they are hardly silent. Like all jets, they make a hell of a racket.
3) Brilliant light, especially at night, which would kind of defeat the whole purpose of stealth technology, wouldn't it?
4) Visual stealth. Many anomalous UFO reports involve objects which show up on radar (including the one Lt. Manuel Torres almost fired on in 1957) but are invisible to the naked eye.

Following the secret 'Robertson Report' in 1953, Eisenhower tasked the CIA with making sure that the UFO phenomenon didn't undermine U.S. morale in the face of the Communist threat and didn't become a way for the Reds to manipulate the masses. Since the CIA couldn't control the phenomena itself and couldn't control the free press (contrary to neo-conservative whining today), they took the only possible route left: hire 'experts' in deception, like Menzel, to deride and deny the existence of the phenomena. Thus, UFO's officially became what I call 'self-marginalizing phenomena,' that is, phenomena which, once reported, destroy the integrity and credibility of the reporter. The CIA continues this policy to the present day, as this story proves. It would take a deaf, blind idiot to mistake a noisy winged vehicle in level flight for a glowing, darting, sometimes even spinning disk, egg or spindle shaped UFO.

This policy also served the dual purpose of providing 'cover' to the secret reconnaissance air craft, although ironically the Soviets knew they were overflying the USSR, as the 1960 Francis Gary Powers incident proved. Powers so distrusted his CIA handlers that he failed to push the self-destruct button when he bailed out of his SAM-damaged U2 spy plane, fearing he wouldn't get the 10-second time delay he'd been promised!

If the people who fly for the CIA don't trust the CIA, should we?

So who was being fooled? The American public, not the Soviets!

We should be happy that the CIA takes this part of their job so seriously, since they sure screwed up on those WMD's in Iraq! It is time, however, for the US government to follow the lead of many other major powers, such as France and the UK, and release everything it can about anomalous UFO sightings. Progress in science demands it.

(While they're at it, they could release what they know about the intelligence of dolphins and toothed whales too. We're not alone on this planet, even without the UFO's!)

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Ilya StavinskyJun 11th, 2009 - 13:41:57

If anybody wants to see AFOs (Aliens Flying Object) in the night
sky as I described in my article 'Aleins live in our Earth's atmosphere' sites.google.com/site/socialcapital1/Home
please contact me to know my schedule of UFO sighting ( Manhattan, NYC or Park Ridge,NJ). From 1963 - 1967 I served in the Russian Navy (Pacific Ocean) on the scientific top secret ship 'Sakhalin', that provided technical support for satellites and experimental rockets, as radar station operator.
Sincerely
Ilya

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Ron RegehrJun 11th, 2009 - 15:31:21

Too bad Bowden relies on his bias instead of facts. Had he conducted even a miniscule bit of research he would have found there is no correlation between UFO sightings and overflights of these aircraft--zero, zilch, nada, not one shred.
But then that doesn't make for a good story, and all newsfolks know one should never allow those pesky facts to interfere with a good story!

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OvniHillJun 11th, 2009 - 15:40:57

If there was any substance to this I might consider giving it credibility. Since this is pure speculation with no scientific substance or study it should be filed with other such intellectual fertilizer pseudo journalism. I would not preclude that it is possible for a very small amount of such sightings are due to this, but lets face it...these military crafts fly from secluded areas in the uninhabited deserts, remote bases in the midwest etc. They fly at altitudes that make them invisible to visible and all other wavelengths with the stealth technology.If you know more about these objects, then share it with us. It is my guess you do not (since it is classified).

I read something similar to this in Popular Science or Mechanics, and on the surface all this does is give the people that will not reasonably consider we are being visited a plausible reason to deny visitors existance.

Why are we still launching the shuttle if we have all this technology you are speaking of. Why are we spending billions in the Ares? Something is not making sense here. Is reverse engineering a possibility? I think it could well be. Then if we reverse engineered these craft that seem to have interest in our industrial and military bases, our people and civilization, then why are we spying on ourselves? Are the people that reverse engineered these voyeur spys?

Show me your proof

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John AJun 12th, 2009 - 07:22:07

Can you spell plagerism? This is a rewrite of yesterday's article on another blog attributed the Reyes.

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DHConnerJun 12th, 2009 - 22:50:17

Yeah, right. I've got a 59,520 feet tall mountain of 24 karat gold here in Windsor Heights, Iowa I'd like to sell you too....

If there were in our Milky Way Galaxy another civilization with the technological skills to send spacecraft to Earth, why would they make any effort whatsoever to conceal themselves? Such technology would be so far advanced beyond ours that only in science fiction and to a very small extent in scientific theory can we even imagine such an achievement. They would certainly be able to defeat any military power we might attempt to use against them

The nearest galaxy to us is the Andromeda Galaxy, 2 1/4 billion light years away!! Is that where they are coming from? Someplace in our local galactic cluster? Someplace in our galactic super-cluster?

You people need to get lives and live them well instead of gobbling up the horse crap these UFO theorist/conspiracy/ true believers waste their and your time on. Just because not everything we see can be explained by the knowledge available to those who do not need to know neither makes it false nor unreal, or true and real.

One of my brothers-in-law was a B-52 pilot during the Nam, and then a war codes officer at a SAC base in the eastern part of the nation. In typical military speak, he told me 'We've got some stuff that's absolutely amazing. I can't tell you what these things are, but these people who think they are seeing something sometimes really are and sometimes aren't'. That was true 30 years ago and I'll bet my life it's still true to today, and always will be.

Go read some books worth reading. Barbecue. Go swimming. Riding. Take a nap. But for God's sake stop wasting your precious lives on something you don't understand and couldn't do anything about even if you did.

FBI. CIA. NSA. And I'm sure a good number of other national intelligence agencies that only a hand full of people know exist study these 'reports'. All in some gigantic conspiracy to lie to and mislead us, right? Sure. 'NEED TO KNOW'. THAT'S HOW SECRETS ARE KEPT!!

If we all needed to know they'd tell us. And if all these supposed other non-local solar system UFOs were real, why do they never appear over a city like LA, NYC, Miami, Detroit, Denver, or Chicago? Why is it always some lonely road in the 0-dark 30 am and seen by one person? Are these individuals so special that these supposed beings choose to reveal themselves just to them and no on else?

Yes, yes, I know. Now take your medication, that's a good fellow.

I will say this: If 'They', sentient aliens from another world, ever do come to Earth, it'll be on every radio, television, and computer net work so fast most of mankind will know it almost simultaneously and instantaneously. Now, go play with your plastic model spaceships. 'They're coming soon, don't you know?

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